Sunan Abi Dawud 2856 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا محمد بن المصفى، حدثنا محمد بن حرب، ح وحدثنا محمد بن المصفى، حدثنا بقية، عن الزبيدي، حدثنا يونس بن سيف، حدثنا أبو إدريس الخولاني، حدثني أبو ثعلبة الخشني، قال: قال لي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «يا أبا ثعلبة كل ما ردت عليك قوسك وكلبك» زاد عن ابن حرب: «المعلم ويدك فكل ذكيا وغير ذكي»

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Sunan Abi Dawud, vol. 3, p. 110, no. 2856. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

أبو داودCompiler · Identified · d. 275 AH
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Who
سليمان بن الأشعث بن إسحاق بن بشير بن شداد بن عمرو بن عمران ، وقيل : سليمان بن الأشعث بن بشر بن شداد ، وقيل : سليمان بن الأشعث بن شداد بن عمرو بن عامر
d. 275 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
وحدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن المصفىProposed match · d. 235–251 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن مصفى بن بهلول
d. 235–251 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 2965 carries the name form 'محمد بن المصفي'.
What the critics say
- صدوق له أوهام وكان يدلسTruthful, makes mistakes · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 507, entry 6304 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 221, entry 5157 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة يغربal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 221, entry 5157 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
بقيةProposed match · d. 190–199 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
بقية بن الوليد بن صائد بن كعب بن حريز
d. 190–199 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 136 carries the name form 'بقيه'.
What the critics say
- صدوق كثير التدليس عن الضعفاءTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 126, entry 734 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
الزبيديProposed match · d. 146–149 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن الوليد بن عامر
d. 146–149 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'الزبيدي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أبو بكر بن الوليد بن عامر ، قال الحاكم وابن منده : اسمه صمصوم no death date
- زبيد بن الحارث بن عبد الكريم بن عمرو بن كعب d. 120–124 AH
- سعيد بن عبد الجبار وهو سعيد بن أبي سعيد d. 181–190 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت من كبار أصحاب الزهريReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 511, entry 6372 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
يونس بن سيفProposed match · d. 120 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يونس بن سيف
d. 120 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 5280 carries the name form 'يونس بن سيف'.
What the critics say
- مقبولAcceptable where corroborated · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 613, entry 7906 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- صالح ثقةal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 403, entry 6470 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو إدريس الخولانيProposed match · d. 80 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عائذ الله بن عبد الله بن عمرو ويقال : عيذ الله بن إدريس بن عائذ بن عبد الله بن عتبة بن غيلان بن مكين
d. 80 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 657 carries the name form 'ابو ادريس الخولاني'.
What the critics say
- من كبار الصحابة ومات سنة ثمانين قال سعيد بن عبد العزيز كان عالم الشام بعد أبي الدرداءCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 289, entry 3115 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 528, entry 2552 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- العزيز كان عالم أهل الشام بعد أبي الدرداءسعيد بن عبد, al-Kashif, p. 528, entry 2552 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- البر سماعه من معاذ صحيح وقيلبن عبد, al-Kashif, p. 528, entry 2552 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثني · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو ثعلبة الخشنيProposed match · d. 75 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أبو ثعلبة ، قيل : اسمه جرثوم أو جرثومة أو جرثم أو جرهم أو لاشر أو لاش أو الاشق أو لا شومة ، أو ناشب أو باشر أو غرنوق أو شق أو زيد أو الأسود
d. 75 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو ثعلبه الخشني'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أبو ثعلبة الخشني no death date
- جرثوم بن ناشم d. 71 AH
What the critics say
- صحابي مشهور بكنيته قيل اسمه جرثوم أو جرثومة أو جرثم أو جرهم أو لاشر بمعجمة مكسورة بعدها راء أو لاش بغير راء أو الاشق أو لا شومة أو ناشب أو باشر أو غرنوق أو شق أو زيد أو الأسود واختلف في اسم أبيه أيضاCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 627, entry 8006 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
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رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
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Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

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محمد بن المصفى: a critic notes wahm.
أبو داود from محمد بن المصفى: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
محمد بن المصفى from بقية: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
بقية from الزبيدي: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.
يونس بن سيف from أبو إدريس الخولاني: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبو إدريس الخولاني from أبو ثعلبة الخشني: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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