Sunan Ibn Majah 20 · Project Hadith

حدثنا محمد بن بشار قال: حدثنا يحيى بن سعيد، عن شعبة، عن عمرو بن مرة، عن أبي البختري، عن أبي عبد الرحمن السلمي، عن علي بن أبي طالب، قال: «إذا حدثتكم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم حديثا، فظنوا به الذي هو أهناه، وأهداه، وأتقاه»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Sunan Ibn Majah, vol. 1, p. 6, no. 20. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

ابن ماجهCompiler · Identified · d. 273–275 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن ماجه : يزيد
d. 273–275 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن بشارProposed match · d. 252 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن بشار بن عثمان بن داود بن كيسان
d. 252 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'محمد بن بشار'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن يسار no death date
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 469, entry 5754 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- فيه ترك حديثهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقه غير واحد وقدal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- عن عائشةمرة, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال رجل أعيذك بالله ما أفصحكقالت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أختلف إلى أبي عبيدة فقال قد بان عليككنت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
يحيى بن سعيدProposed match · d. 198 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن سعيد بن فروخ
d. 198 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 13 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'يحيي بن سعيد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- يحيى بن سعيد no death date
- يحيى بن سعيد d. 211–220 AH
- يحيى بن سعيد بن العاص بن سعيد بن العاص بن أمية d. 75–85 AH
- يحيى بن سعيد بن يزيد no death date
- يحيى بن سعيد بن قيس بن عمرو بن سهل بن ثعلبة بن الحارث بن زيد بن ثعلبة بن غنم بن مالك بن النجار ، ويقال : يحيى بن سعيد بن قيس بن قهد ، ولا يصح d. 143–146 AH
- بحير بن سعد d. 141–150 AH
- يحيى بن سعيد no death date
- يحيى بن سعيد no death date
- يحيى بن سعد بن أبي وقاص no death date
- يحيى بن سعيد بن حيان d. 143–145 AH
- يحيى بن سعيد d. 201 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة متقن حافظ إمام قدوةReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 591, entry 7557 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 366, entry 6175 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ما رأيت مثلهأحمد, al-Kashif, p. 366, entry 6175 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- حدثنا إمام أهل زمانه يحيى القطان واختلفت إليه عشرين سنة فما أظن أنه عصى الله قطبندار, al-Kashif, p. 366, entry 6175 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
شعبةProposed match · d. 160 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
شعبة بن الحجاج بن الورد
d. 160 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 8 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'شعبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- شعبة بن دينار no death date
- سعيد بن أبي عروبة : مهران d. 150–157 AH
- شعيب بن الحبحاب d. 130–131 AH
- شعبة no death date
- شعيب بن الليث بن سعد بن عبد الرحمن d. 180–199 AH
- شعبة بن دينار no death date
- شعبة d. 111 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ متقن كان الثوري يقول هو أمير المؤمنين في الحديث وهو أول من فتش بالعراق عن الرجال وذب عن السنة وكان عابداReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 266, entry 2790 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 485, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- من ألفي حديثal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 485, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عمرو بن مرةProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عمرو بن مرة بن عبس بن مالك بن المحرث بن مازن بن سعد بن مالك بن رفاعة بن نصر بن غطفان بن قيس بن جهينة
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عمرو بن مره'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عمرو بن مرة بن عبس الجهني الأزدي d. 118 AH
- عمرو بن مرزوق d. 223–224 AH
What the critics say
- صحابيCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 427, entry 5113 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي البختريProposed match · d. 81–83 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سعيد بن فيروز ، ابن أبي عمران
d. 81–83 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو البختري'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أبو البخترى الازدي no death date
- عبد الله بن محمد بن شاكر d. 270 AH
- أبو البختري d. 191 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت فيه تشيع قليل كثير الإرسالReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 240, entry 2380 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثابت كان أعلمنا وأفقهناحبيب بن أبي, al-Kashif, p. 442, entry 1946 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي عبد الرحمن السلميProposed match · d. 70–105 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن حبيب بن ربيعة
d. 70–105 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو عبد الرحمن السلمي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أبو عبد الرحمن السلمي d. 71 AH
- محمد بن الحسين بن موسى d. 412 AH
- محمد بن الحسين النيسابوري الفقيه d. 412 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 299, entry 3271 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الإمامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 544, entry 2681 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
علي بن أبي طالبProposed match · d. 40 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
علي بن أبي طالب : عبد مناف بن عبد المطلب بن هاشم بن عبد مناف
d. 40 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'علي بن ابي طالب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- علي بن أبي طالب : حماد no death date
- علي بن أبي طالب no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
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رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
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Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

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أبي البختري: a critic notes irsal, bid'a.
ابن ماجه from محمد بن بشار: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
علي بن أبي طالب is not recorded as a Companion in the data loaded.

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