Sunan Ibn Majah 2661 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا سويد بن سعيد قال: حدثنا علي بن مسهر، عن إسماعيل بن مسلم، عن عمرو بن دينار، عن طاوس، عن ابن عباس، أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: «لا يقتل بالولد الوالد»

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Sunan Ibn Majah, vol. 2, p. 888, no. 2661. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

ابن ماجهCompiler · Identified · d. 273–275 AH
Identified
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Who
محمد بن ماجه : يزيد
d. 273–275 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
سويد بن سعيدProposed match · d. 239–240 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سويد بن سعيد بن سهل بن شهريار
d. 239–240 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'سويد بن سعيد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- سعيد بن سويد d. 111–120 AH
- سويد بن سعيد d. 231 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
علي بن مسهرProposed match · d. 189 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
علي بن مسهر بن علي بن عمير بن عاصم بن عبيد بن مسهر
d. 189 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 551 carries the name form 'علي بن مسهر'.
What the critics say
- ثقة له غرائب بعد أن أضرReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 405, entry 4800 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 47, entry 3967 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 47, entry 3967 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
إسماعيل بن مسلمProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
إسماعيل بن مسلم
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 7 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'اسماعيل بن مسلم'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- إسماعيل بن مسلم no death date
- إسماعيل بن مسلم no death date
- إسماعيل بن محمد بن سعد بن أبي وقاص d. 134 AH
- إسماعيل بن مسلم no death date
- إسماعيل بن مسلم no death date
- إسماعيل بن مسلم no death date
What the critics say
- ضعيف الحديثWeak · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 110, entry 484 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عمرو بن دينارProposed match · d. 116–129 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عمرو بن دينار
d. 116–129 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عمرو بن دينار'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عمر بن بيان no death date
- صالح بن دينار no death date
- عمرو بن دينار no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 421, entry 5024 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
طاوسTwo or more candidates · d. 131–132 or 100–110 AH
Two or more candidates
More than one narrator fits this name. None is chosen.
Candidates
- عبد الله بن طاووس بن كيسان d. 131–132 AH
- طاووس بن كيسان ، يقال اسمه : ذكوان d. 100–110 AH
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن عباسProposed match · d. 65–73 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عباس بن عبد المطلب
d. 65–73 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن عباس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include a neighbour in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن عباس الحميري no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

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طاوس: more than one narrator fits, so the links around this name are not checked.
ابن ماجه from سويد بن سعيد: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
سويد بن سعيد from علي بن مسهر: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
علي بن مسهر from إسماعيل بن مسلم: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
إسماعيل بن مسلم from عمرو بن دينار: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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