Sunan Ibn Majah 3666 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا أبو بكر بن أبي شيبة قال: حدثنا عفان قال: حدثنا وهيب قال: حدثنا عبد الله بن عثمان بن خثيم، عن سعيد بن أبي راشد، عن يعلى العامري، أنه قال: جاء الحسن والحسين يسعيان إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، فضمهما إليه وقال: «إن الولد مبخلة مجبنة»

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Sunan Ibn Majah, vol. 2, p. 1208, no. 3666. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

ابن ماجهCompiler · Identified · d. 273–275 AH
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Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن ماجه : يزيد
d. 273–275 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو بكر بن أبي شيبةProposed match · d. 234–235 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن محمد بن أبي شيبة : إبراهيم بن عثمان بن خواستي
d. 234–235 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو بكر بن ابي شيبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أبو بكر بن أبي شيبة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ صاحب تصانيفReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 320, entry 3575 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عفانProposed match · d. 219–220 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عفان بن مسلم بن عبد الله
d. 219–220 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عفان'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن جعفر d. 192–194 AH
- عفان no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت قال بن المديني كان إذا شك في حرف من الحديث تركه وربما وهم وقال بن معين أنكرناه في صفر سنة تسع عشرة ومات بعدها بيسيرIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 393, entry 4625 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- تركهوربما, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 393, entry 4625 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 27, entry 3827 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
وهيبProposed match · d. 165–169 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
وهيب بن خالد بن عجلان
d. 165–169 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 5 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'وهيب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- وهيب ، ويقال : أهيب no death date
- وهب بن جرير بن حازم بن زيد بن عبد الله بن شجاع d. 206–207 AH
- وهيب d. 161 AH
- وهيب بن الورد بن أبي الورد ، يقال اسمه : عبد الوهاب ، وقيل : وهيب ، وعبد الوهاب أخوان ، والأول أشهر d. 153–154 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت لكنه تغير قليلا بأخرةReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 586, entry 7487 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 358, entry 6118 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كان من أبصرهم بالحديث والرجالبن مهدي, al-Kashif, p. 358, entry 6118 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة يقال لم يكن بعد شعبة أعلم بالرجال منهأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 358, entry 6118 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبد الله بن عثمان بن خثيمProposed match · d. 132–144 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عثمان بن خثيم
d. 132–144 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبد الله بن عثمان بن خثيم'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الله بن عثمان بن خثيم بن القارة d. 132–144 AH
- عبد الله بن عثمان بن خثيم no death date
- عبد الله بن عثمان بن خثيم no death date
What the critics say
- صدوقTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 313, entry 3466 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- صالح الحديثأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 572, entry 2849 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
سعيد بن أبي راشدProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سعيد بن أبي راشد ، ويقال : ابن راشد
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'سعيد بن ابي راشد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- يد بن أبي راشد no death date
- سعيد بن أبي راشد no death date
What the critics say
- مقبولAcceptable where corroborated · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 235, entry 2301 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- صدوقTruthful · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 435, entry 1881 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
يعلى العامريProposed match · d. 51–60 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يعلى بن مرة بن وهب بن جابر بن عتاب بن مالك بن كعب بن عمرو بن سعد بن عوف بن قسي ، وهو يعلى ابن سيابة
d. 51–60 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 6093 carries the name form 'يعلي العامري'.
What the critics say
- صحابي شهد الحديبية وما بعدهاCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 609, entry 7847 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
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النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
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Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

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وهيب: a critic notes taghayyur.
ابن ماجه from أبو بكر بن أبي شيبة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبو بكر بن أبي شيبة from عفان: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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