Sunan al-Nasa'i 4831 · Project Hadith

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أخبرني محمود بن خالد، قال: حدثنا الوليد، عن ابن جريج، عن عمرو بن شعيب، عن جده مثله سواء

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Sunan al-Nasa'i, vol. 8, p. 50, no. 4831. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

النسائيCompiler · Identified · d. 302–303 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
أحمد بن شعيب بن علي بن سنان بن بحر بن دينار
d. 302–303 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
أخبرني · akhbaranā, “he informed us”
محمود بن خالدProposed match · d. 245–249 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمود بن خالد بن أبي خالد : يزيد
d. 245–249 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1981 carries the name form 'محمود بن خالد'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 522, entry 6510 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثبتReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 245, entry 5318 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
الوليدProposed match · d. 194–196 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
الوليد بن مسلم
d. 194–196 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 25 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'الوليد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- الوليد بن الوليد بن المغيرة بن عبد الله بن عمر بن مخزوم no death date
- الوليد بن عبدة d. 100–103 AH
- الوليد بن عطاء بن خباب no death date
- الوليد بن عبد الملك بن مروان بن الحكم بن أبي العاص بن أمية d. 96 AH
- الوليد بن العيزار بن حريث d. 111–120 AH
- الوليد بن عبد الله بن جميع ، وقد ينسب إلى جده d. 151–160 AH
- الوليد بن عبد الله بن أبي ثور ، وقد ينسب لجده d. 172 AH
- الوليد بن كثير بن سنان d. 191–200 AH
- الوليد بن كثير d. 151 AH
- الوليد بن أبي الوليد : عثمان ، وقيل: ابن الوليد d. 121–130 AH
- أبان بن الوليد بن هشام عن الزهري لا يعرف هو المعيطي وقال أبو حاتم مجهول no death date
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 355, entry 6093 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن جريجProposed match · d. 149–160 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الملك بن عبد العزيز بن جريج
d. 149–160 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن جريج'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبيد بن جريج d. 101–110 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة فقيه فاضل وكان يدلس ويرسلReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 363, entry 4193 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 666, entry 3461 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- سمعته يقول ما دون العلم تدويني أحدبن عيينة, al-Kashif, p. 666, entry 3461 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عمرو بن شعيبProposed match · d. 118 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عمرو بن شعيب بن محمد بن عبد الله بن عمرو بن العاص
d. 118 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عمرو بن شعيب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عمرو بن شعيب no death date
What the critics say
- صدوقTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 423, entry 5050 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة فهو حجةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 78, entry 4173 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ربما احتججنا بهأحمد, al-Kashif, p. 78, entry 4173 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- رأيت أحمد وعليا وإسحاق وأبا عبيد وعامة أصحابنا يحتجون بهالبخاري, al-Kashif, p. 78, entry 4173 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس بحجةأبو داود, al-Kashif, p. 78, entry 4173 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
جده مثله سواءNot identified
Not identified
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ابن جريج: a critic notes irsal.
جده مثله سواء: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
النسائي from محمود بن خالد: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
محمود بن خالد from الوليد: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
الوليد from ابن جريج: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
ابن جريج from عمرو بن شعيب: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
ابن جريج from عمرو بن شعيب: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.

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