Jami' al-Tirmidhi 1404 · Project Hadith

1404

حدثنا أبو كريب قال: حدثنا يحيى بن آدم، عن أبي بكر بن عياش، عن أبي سعد، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عباس «أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ودى العامريين بدية المسلمين، وكان لهما عهد من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم» : هذا حديث غريب لا نعرفه إلا من هذا الوجه وأبو سعد البقال اسمه سعيد بن المرزبان

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 4, p. 19, no. 1404. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 4, p. 19, no. 1404Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو كريبProposed match · d. 247–248 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن العلاء بن كريب
d. 247–248 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو كريب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- كريب بن أبي مسلم d. 98 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 500, entry 6204 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 208, entry 5100 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ظهر بالكوفة له ثلاثمائة ألف حديث هو أسن من أحمد بثلاث سنينبن عقدة, al-Kashif, p. 208, entry 5100 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
يحيى بن آدمProposed match · d. 203 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن آدم بن سليمان
d. 203 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 738 carries the name form 'يحيي بن ادم'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ فاضلReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 587, entry 7496 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 360, entry 6124 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي بكر بن عياشProposed match · d. 192–194 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أبو بكر بن عياش بن سالم ، قيل اسمه : محمد ، وقيل : عبد الله ، وقيل : سالم ، وقيل : شعبة ، وقيل : رؤبة ، وقيل : مسلم ، وقيل : خداش ، وقيل : مطرف ، وقيل : حماد ، وقيل : حبيب ، والصحيح أن اسمه كنيته
d. 192–194 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو بكر بن عياش'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أبو بكر بن عياش no death date
- أبو بكر بن عياش no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة عابد إلا أنه لما كبر ساء حفظه وكتابه صحيحIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 624, entry 7985 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 412, entry 6535 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- صدوق ثقة ربما غلطأحمد, al-Kashif, p. 412, entry 6535 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- هو وشريك في الحفظ سواءأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 412, entry 6535 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي سعدProposed match · d. after 140 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سعيد بن المرزبان
d. after 140 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 19 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو سعد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- الربيع ، وقيل : بن عبد الله no death date
- أبو سعد no death date
- أبو سعد no death date
- العلاء بن كثير no death date
- أبو سعيد ، قيل : عمارة بن سعيد ، أو : سعيد بن عمارة ، وقيل : عامر بن مسعود no death date
- محمد بن ميسر ، وهو محمد بن أبي زكريا d. 201–210 AH
- أبو سعد no death date
- أحمد بن محمد بن أحمد بن الحسن بن علي بن أحمد بن سليمان d. 540 AH
- سالم بن نوح بن أبي عطاء d. after 200 AH
- أبو سعد no death date
- سعيد بن أبي سعيد : كيسان d. 112–131 AH
What the critics say
- ضعيف مدلس مات بعد الأربعينWeak · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 241, entry 2389 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- منكر الحديثأحمد, al-Kashif, p. 444, entry 1954 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عكرمةProposed match · d. 104–115 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عكرمة بن منصور
d. 104–115 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عكرمه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عكرمة بن خالد بن العاص بن هشام بن المغيرة بن عبد الله بن عمر بن مخزوم بن يقظة بن مرة بن كعب بن لؤي بن غالب بن فهر المخزومي القرشي يروى عن بن عمر وهو الذي d. 115 AH
- عكرمة بن عمار بن عقبة بن حبيب بن شهاب بن ذباب بن الحارث بن حمصانة بن الأسعد بن جذيمة بن سعد بن عجل d. 159–160 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن عباسProposed match · d. 65–73 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عباس بن عبد المطلب
d. 65–73 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن عباس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن عباس الحميري no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

الترمذي from أبو كريب: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبي بكر بن عياش from أبي سعد: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبي سعد from عكرمة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبي سعد from عكرمة: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.
عكرمة from ابن عباس: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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