Jami' al-Tirmidhi 1732 · Project Hadith

1732

حدثنا إسحاق بن منصور قال: أخبرنا عفان قال: حدثنا حماد بن سلمة، عن علي بن زيد، عن أم الحسن، أن أم سلمة حدثتهم، «أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم شبر لفاطمة شبرا من نطاقها» وروى بعضهم، عن حماد بن سلمة، عن علي بن زيد، عن الحسن، عن أمه، عن أم سلمة وفي هذا الحديث رخصة للنساء في جر الإزار لأنه يكون أستر لهن

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Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 4, p. 223, no. 1732. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
إسحاق بن منصورProposed match · d. 251 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
إسحاق بن منصور بن بهرام
d. 251 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'اسحاق بن منصور'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- إسحاق بن منصور d. 204–205 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 103, entry 384 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 239, entry 322 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
أخبرنا · akhbaranā, “he informed us”
عفانProposed match · d. 219–220 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عفان بن مسلم بن عبد الله
d. 219–220 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عفان'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن جعفر d. 192–194 AH
- عفان no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت قال بن المديني كان إذا شك في حرف من الحديث تركه وربما وهم وقال بن معين أنكرناه في صفر سنة تسع عشرة ومات بعدها بيسيرIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 393, entry 4625 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- تركهوربما, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 393, entry 4625 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 27, entry 3827 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
حماد بن سلمةProposed match · d. 165–167 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
حماد بن سلمة بن دينار
d. 165–167 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'حماد بن سلمه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- حماد بن سلمة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقه عابد أثبت الناس في ثابت وتغير حفظه بأخرةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 178, entry 1499 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الإمامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 349, entry 1220 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- إذا رأيت من يقع فيه فاتهمه على الإسلامبن معين, al-Kashif, p. 349, entry 1220 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كتبت عن حماد بن سلمة بضعة عشر ألفاعمرو بن عاصم, al-Kashif, p. 349, entry 1220 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- هو ثقة صدوق يغلط وليس في قوة مالكal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 349, entry 1220 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
علي بن زيدProposed match · d. 127–131 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
علي بن زيد بن عبد الله بن أبي مليكة : زهير بن عبد الله بن جدعان بن عمرو بن كعب بن سعد بن تيم بن مرة
d. 127–131 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'علي بن زيد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- علي بن زيد بن عبد الله d. 262–270 AH
- علي بن زيد d. 261 AH
- علي بن يزيد بن أبي هلال d. 110 AH
What the critics say
- ضعيفWeak · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 401, entry 4734 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الحفاظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 40, entry 3916 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- لا يزال عندي فيه لينالدارقطني, al-Kashif, p. 40, entry 3916 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- لمامنصور بن زاذان, al-Kashif, p. 40, entry 3916 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أم الحسنProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
خيرة
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ام الحسن'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أم الحسن no death date
- أم الحسن no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
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النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

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حماد بن سلمة: a critic notes taghayyur.
الترمذي from إسحاق بن منصور: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عفان from حماد بن سلمة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
حماد بن سلمة from علي بن زيد: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
علي بن زيد from أم الحسن: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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