Jami' al-Tirmidhi 1794 · Project Hadith

1794

حدثنا محمد بن بشار قال: حدثنا عبد الوهاب الثقفي، عن يحيى بن سعيد الأنصاري، عن مالك بن أنس، عن الزهري، ح وحدثنا ابن أبي عمر قال: حدثنا سفيان بن عيينة، عن الزهري، عن عبد الله، والحسن، ابنى محمد بن علي، عن أبيهما، عن علي قال: «نهى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم عن متعة النساء زمن خيبر، وعن لحوم الحمر الأهلية» حدثنا سعيد بن عبد الرحمن المخزومي قال: حدثنا سفيان، عن الزهري، عن عبد الله، والحسن هما ابنا محمد ابن الحنفية وعبد الله بن محمد يكنى أبا هاشم قال الزهري: وكان أرضاهما الحسن بن محمد فذكر نحوه، وقال غير سعيد بن عبد الرحمن: عن ابن عيينة، وكان أرضاهما عبد الله بن محمد.: هذا حديث صحيح

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 4, p. 253, no. 1794. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث صحيحSound · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 4, p. 253, no. 1794Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

Route 1 of 2

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
وحدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
ابن أبي عمرProposed match · d. 243–244 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن يحيى بن أبي عمر ، وقد ينسب إلى جده ، وقيل : إن أبا عمر كنية أبيه يحيى
d. 243–244 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1601 carries the name form 'ابن ابي عمر'.
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
سفيان بن عيينةProposed match · d. 197–198 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سفيان بن عيينة بن أبي عمران : ميمون
d. 197–198 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 192 carries the name form 'سفيان بن عيينه'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ فقيه إمام حجة إلا أنه تغير حفظه بأخرة وكان ربما دلس لكن عن الثقاتIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 245, entry 2451 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 449, entry 2002 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة ثبت حافظ إمامReliable, with emphasis · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 449, entry 2002 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
الزهريProposed match · d. 123–125 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن مسلم بن عبيد الله بن عبد الله بن شهاب بن عبد الله بن الحارث بن زهرة بن كلاب بن مرة بن كعب بن لؤي بن غالب
d. 123–125 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'الزهري'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الرحمن بن عطاف بن صفوان no death date
- الزهري d. 121 AH
What the critics say
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 217, entry 5152 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- له نحو ألفي حديثبن المديني, al-Kashif, p. 217, entry 5152 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أسند أكثر من ألف وحديثه ألفان ومائتا حديث نصفها مسندةأبو داود, al-Kashif, p. 217, entry 5152 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد اللهNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبيهماNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عليNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Route 2 of 2

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن بشارProposed match · d. 252 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن بشار بن عثمان بن داود بن كيسان
d. 252 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'محمد بن بشار'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن يسار no death date
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 469, entry 5754 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- فيه ترك حديثهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقه غير واحد وقدal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- عن عائشةمرة, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال رجل أعيذك بالله ما أفصحكقالت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أختلف إلى أبي عبيدة فقال قد بان عليككنت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبد الوهاب الثقفيProposed match · d. 184–195 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الوهاب بن عبد المجيد بن الصلت بن عبيد الله بن الحكم بن أبي العاص
d. 184–195 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 16 carries the name form 'عبد الوهاب الثقفي'.
What the critics say
- ثقة تغير قبل موته بثلاث سنينReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 368, entry 4261 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 674, entry 3519 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقهبن معين, al-Kashif, p. 674, entry 3519 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- بآخرهاختلط, al-Kashif, p. 674, entry 3519 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
يحيى بن سعيد الأنصاريProposed match · d. 143–146 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن سعيد بن قيس بن عمرو بن سهل بن ثعلبة بن الحارث بن زيد بن ثعلبة بن غنم بن مالك بن النجار ، ويقال : يحيى بن سعيد بن قيس بن قهد ، ولا يصح
d. 143–146 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'يحيي بن سعيد الانصاري'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- يحيى بن سعيد الأنصاري no death date
What the critics say
- مقبولAcceptable where corroborated · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 644, entry 8125 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
مالك بن أنسProposed match · d. 178–179 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
مالك بن أنس بن مالك بن أبي عامر بن عمرو بن الحارث بن غيمان بن خثيل بن عمرو بن الحارث
d. 178–179 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'مالك بن انس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- مالك بن أنس no death date
What the critics say
- إمام دار الهجرة رأس المتقنين وكبير المتثبتين حتى قال البخاري أصح الأسانيد كلها مالك عن نافع عن بن عمرIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 516, entry 6425 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الإمامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 234, entry 5240 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
الزهريProposed match · d. 123–125 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن مسلم بن عبيد الله بن عبد الله بن شهاب بن عبد الله بن الحارث بن زهرة بن كلاب بن مرة بن كعب بن لؤي بن غالب
d. 123–125 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'الزهري'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الرحمن بن عطاف بن صفوان no death date
- الزهري d. 121 AH
What the critics say
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 217, entry 5152 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- له نحو ألفي حديثبن المديني, al-Kashif, p. 217, entry 5152 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أسند أكثر من ألف وحديثه ألفان ومائتا حديث نصفها مسندةأبو داود, al-Kashif, p. 217, entry 5152 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد اللهNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبيهماNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عليNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

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Route 1

سفيان بن عيينة: a critic notes taghayyur.
عبد الله: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
أبيهما: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
علي: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
الترمذي from ابن أبي عمر: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
سفيان بن عيينة from الزهري: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.

Route 2

عبد الوهاب الثقفي: a critic notes taghayyur.
عبد الله: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
أبيهما: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
علي: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
الترمذي from محمد بن بشار: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عبد الوهاب الثقفي from يحيى بن سعيد الأنصاري: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
يحيى بن سعيد الأنصاري from مالك بن أنس: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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