Jami' al-Tirmidhi 1846 · Project Hadith

1846

حدثنا يحيى بن موسى قال: حدثنا عبد الله بن نمير قال: حدثنا قيس بن الربيع، ح وحدثنا قتيبة قال: حدثنا عبد الكريم الجرجاني، عن قيس بن الربيع المعنى واحد، عن أبي هاشم يعني الرماني، عن زاذان، عن سلمان قال: قرأت في التوراة أن بركة الطعام الوضوء بعده، فذكرت ذلك للنبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فأخبرته بما قرأت في التوراة، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «بركة الطعام الوضوء قبله والوضوء بعده» وفي الباب عن أنس، وأبي هريرة: لا نعرف هذا الحديث إلا من حديث قيس بن الربيع، وقيس بن الربيع يضعف في الحديث، وأبو هاشم الرماني اسمه يحيى بن دينار

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Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 4, p. 280, no. 1846. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

Route 1 of 2

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
وحدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
قتيبةProposed match · d. 240–241 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
قتيبة بن سعيد بن جميل بن طريف بن عبد الله ، ويقال : اسمه يحيى ، وقيل : علي
d. 240–241 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'قتيبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- قتيبة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 454, entry 5522 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبد الكريم الجرجانيProposed match · d. 165–185 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الكريم بن محمد
d. 165–185 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 3794 carries the name form 'عبد الكريم الجرجاني'.
What the critics say
- مقبولAcceptable where corroborated · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 361, entry 4155 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- من القضاء فجاور بمكةal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 661, entry 3431 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
قيس بن الربيعProposed match · d. 165–168 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
قيس بن الربيع
d. 165–168 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'قيس بن الربيع'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- قيس بن الربيع no death date
- قيس بن الربيع أبو محمد الأسدي من d. 168 AH
What the critics say
- صدوق تغير لما كبر وأدخل عليه ابنه ما ليس من حديثه فحدث بهTruthful, makes mistakes · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 457, entry 5573 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كان شعبة يثني عليهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس بشيءبن معين, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس بقوي ومحله الصدقأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- عامة رواياته مستقيمةبن عدي, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي هاشم يعني الرمانيProposed match · d. 122–145 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن دينار ، وقيل : ابن الأسود ، وقيل : ابن أبي الأسود : بشر ، وقيل : ابن نافع
d. 122–145 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 2941 carries the name form 'ابو هاشم يعني الرماني'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 680, entry 8425 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 469, entry 6880 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زاذانProposed match · d. 82 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زاذان بن منصور
d. 82 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زاذان'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زاذان no death date
- زاذان no death date
- أبو صالح : زاذان no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق يرسل وفيه شيعيةTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 213, entry 1976 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 400, entry 1603 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
سلمانProposed match · d. 34–37 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سلمان بن مر
d. 34–37 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 11 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'سلمان'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- سلمى no death date
- لمان no death date
- لمان no death date
- سلمان بن ربيعة بن يزيد بن عمرو بن سهم بن ثعلبة بن غنم بن قتيبة بن معن، ويقال: ابن ثعلبة بن وائل بن معن بن مالك بن أعصر وهو منبه ابن سعد بن قيس عيلان بن مضر بن نزار بن معد بن عدنان d. 25–31 AH
- سلمان no death date
- سلمان no death date
- سلمان بن الله no death date
- سلمان بن بشير d. 100–101 AH
- سلمان بن عامر بن أوس بن حجر بن عمرو بن الحارث بن تيم بن ذهل بن مالك بن سعد بن بكر بن ضبة no death date
- سلمان d. 111–120 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Route 2 of 2

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
يحيى بن موسىProposed match · d. 239–241 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن موسى بن عبد ربه بن سالم
d. 239–241 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'يحيي بن موسي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- يحيى بن موسى القتبي البصري d. 677 AH
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 597, entry 7655 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبد الله بن نميرProposed match · d. 199 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن نمير
d. 199 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 818 carries the name form 'عبد الله بن نمير'.
What the critics say
- ثقة صاحب حديث من أهل السنةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 327, entry 3668 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- حجةal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 604, entry 3024 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
قيس بن الربيعProposed match · d. 165–168 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
قيس بن الربيع
d. 165–168 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'قيس بن الربيع'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- قيس بن الربيع no death date
- قيس بن الربيع أبو محمد الأسدي من d. 168 AH
What the critics say
- صدوق تغير لما كبر وأدخل عليه ابنه ما ليس من حديثه فحدث بهTruthful, makes mistakes · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 457, entry 5573 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كان شعبة يثني عليهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس بشيءبن معين, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس بقوي ومحله الصدقأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- عامة رواياته مستقيمةبن عدي, al-Kashif, p. 139, entry 4600 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي هاشم يعني الرمانيProposed match · d. 122–145 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن دينار ، وقيل : ابن الأسود ، وقيل : ابن أبي الأسود : بشر ، وقيل : ابن نافع
d. 122–145 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 2941 carries the name form 'ابو هاشم يعني الرماني'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 680, entry 8425 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 469, entry 6880 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زاذانProposed match · d. 82 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زاذان بن منصور
d. 82 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زاذان'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زاذان no death date
- زاذان no death date
- أبو صالح : زاذان no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق يرسل وفيه شيعيةTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 213, entry 1976 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 400, entry 1603 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
سلمانProposed match · d. 34–37 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سلمان بن مر
d. 34–37 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 11 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'سلمان'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- سلمى no death date
- لمان no death date
- لمان no death date
- سلمان بن ربيعة بن يزيد بن عمرو بن سهم بن ثعلبة بن غنم بن قتيبة بن معن، ويقال: ابن ثعلبة بن وائل بن معن بن مالك بن أعصر وهو منبه ابن سعد بن قيس عيلان بن مضر بن نزار بن معد بن عدنان d. 25–31 AH
- سلمان no death date
- سلمان no death date
- سلمان بن الله no death date
- سلمان بن بشير d. 100–101 AH
- سلمان بن عامر بن أوس بن حجر بن عمرو بن الحارث بن تيم بن ذهل بن مالك بن سعد بن بكر بن ضبة no death date
- سلمان d. 111–120 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

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قيس بن الربيع: a critic notes taghayyur.
زاذان: a critic notes irsal.
الترمذي from قتيبة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبي هاشم يعني الرماني from زاذان: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
زاذان from سلمان: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Route 2

قيس بن الربيع: a critic notes taghayyur.
زاذان: a critic notes irsal.
الترمذي from يحيى بن موسى: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبي هاشم يعني الرماني from زاذان: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
زاذان from سلمان: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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