Jami' al-Tirmidhi 2784 · Project Hadith

2784

حدثنا محمود بن غيلان قال: حدثنا أبو داود الطيالسي قال: حدثنا شعبة، وهمام، عن قتادة، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عباس، قال: «لعن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم المتشبهات بالرجال من النساء والمتشبهين بالنساء من الرجال» : «هذا حديث حسن صحيح»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 104, no. 2784. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسن صحيحGood and sound (al-Tirmidhi) · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 104, no. 2784Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمود بن غيلانProposed match · d. 239–249 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمود بن غيلان
d. 239–249 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 817 carries the name form 'محمود بن غيلان'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 522, entry 6516 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 246, entry 5323 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو داود الطيالسيProposed match · d. 203–204 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سليمان بن داود بن الجارود
d. 203–204 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 171 carries the name form 'ابو داود الطيالسي'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ غلط في أحاديثReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 250, entry 2550 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
شعبةProposed match · d. 160 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
شعبة بن الحجاج بن الورد
d. 160 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 8 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'شعبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- شعبة بن دينار no death date
- سعيد بن أبي عروبة : مهران d. 150–157 AH
- شعيب بن الحبحاب d. 130–131 AH
- شعبة no death date
- شعيب بن الليث بن سعد بن عبد الرحمن d. 180–199 AH
- شعبة بن دينار no death date
- شعبة d. 111 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ متقن كان الثوري يقول هو أمير المؤمنين في الحديث وهو أول من فتش بالعراق عن الرجال وذب عن السنة وكان عابداReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 266, entry 2790 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 485, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- من ألفي حديثal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 485, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
قتادةProposed match · d. 117–118 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
قتادة بن دعامة بن قتادة بن عزيز بن عمرو ابن ربيعة بن عمرو بن الحارث بن سدوس ، ويقال : قتادة بن دعامة ابن عكابة بن عزيز بن كريم بن عمرو بن الحارث بن سدوس بن شيبان بن ذهل بن ثعلبة بن عكابة بن صعب بن علي بن بكر ابن وائل
d. 117–118 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 7 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'قتاده'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- النسائي قتادة no death date
- عباد بن بشير no death date
- قتادة بن عبد الله بن أبي قتادة no death date
- قتادة بن الرحمن no death date
- قتادة بن النعمان بن زيد بن عامر بن سواد بن ظفر ، وهو كعب بن الخزرج بن عمرو بن مالك بن الاوس ، وهو : النبيت بن مالك بن الأوس d. 22–23 AH
- ادة حدثنا no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت يقال ولد أكمهReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 453, entry 5518 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 134, entry 4551 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عكرمةProposed match · d. 104–115 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عكرمة بن منصور
d. 104–115 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عكرمه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عكرمة بن خالد بن العاص بن هشام بن المغيرة بن عبد الله بن عمر بن مخزوم بن يقظة بن مرة بن كعب بن لؤي بن غالب بن فهر المخزومي القرشي يروى عن بن عمر وهو الذي d. 115 AH
- عكرمة بن عمار بن عقبة بن حبيب بن شهاب بن ذباب بن الحارث بن حمصانة بن الأسعد بن جذيمة بن سعد بن عجل d. 159–160 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن عباسProposed match · d. 65–73 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عباس بن عبد المطلب
d. 65–73 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن عباس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن عباس الحميري no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

الترمذي from محمود بن غيلان: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
قتادة from عكرمة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عكرمة from ابن عباس: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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