Jami' al-Tirmidhi 2845 · Project Hadith

2845

حدثنا قتيبة قال: حدثنا أبو عوانة، عن سماك بن حرب، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عباس، قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «إن من الشعر حكما» : «هذا حديث حسن»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 137, no. 2845. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسنGood · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 137, no. 2845Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
قتيبةProposed match · d. 240–241 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
قتيبة بن سعيد بن جميل بن طريف بن عبد الله ، ويقال : اسمه يحيى ، وقيل : علي
d. 240–241 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'قتيبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- قتيبة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 454, entry 5522 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو عوانةProposed match · d. 175–176 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
الوضاح بن عبد الله
d. 175–176 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو عوانه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- يعقوب بن إسحاق بن إبراهيم بن يزيد d. 316 AH
- أبو عوانة d. 171 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
سماك بن حربProposed match · d. 123 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سماك بن حرب بن أوس بن خالد بن نزار بن معاوية بن حارثة بن ربيعة بن عامر بن ذهل بن ثعلبة
d. 123 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'سماك بن حرب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- سماك بن حرب no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق وروايته عن عكرمة خاصة مضطربة وقد تغير بأخرة فكان ربما تلقنIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 255, entry 2624 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثمانين صحابياأدركت, al-Kashif, p. 465, entry 2141 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- هو ثقة ساء حفظهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 465, entry 2141 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- قال صالح جزرة يضعفal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 465, entry 2141 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ضعيف الحديث وكان شعبة يضعفه وقواه جماعةبن المبارك, al-Kashif, p. 465, entry 2141 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عكرمةProposed match · d. 104–115 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عكرمة بن منصور
d. 104–115 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عكرمه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عكرمة بن خالد بن العاص بن هشام بن المغيرة بن عبد الله بن عمر بن مخزوم بن يقظة بن مرة بن كعب بن لؤي بن غالب بن فهر المخزومي القرشي يروى عن بن عمر وهو الذي d. 115 AH
- عكرمة بن عمار بن عقبة بن حبيب بن شهاب بن ذباب بن الحارث بن حمصانة بن الأسعد بن جذيمة بن سعد بن عجل d. 159–160 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن عباسProposed match · d. 65–73 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عباس بن عبد المطلب
d. 65–73 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن عباس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن عباس الحميري no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

سماك بن حرب: a critic notes taghayyur.
الترمذي from قتيبة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
قتيبة from أبو عوانة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبو عوانة from سماك بن حرب: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
سماك بن حرب from عكرمة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عكرمة from ابن عباس: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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