Jami' al-Tirmidhi 2912 · Project Hadith

2912

حدثنا بذلك إسحاق بن منصور قال: حدثنا عبد الرحمن بن مهدي، عن معاوية، عن العلاء بن الحارث، عن زيد بن أرطاة، عن جبير بن نفير، قال: قال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم: «إنكم لن ترجعوا إلى الله بأفضل مما خرج منه» يعني القرآن

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 176, no. 2912. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
بذلك إسحاق بن منصورNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبد الرحمن بن مهديProposed match · d. 198 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الرحمن بن مهدي بن حسان بن عبد الرحمن
d. 198 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 983 carries the name form 'عبد الرحمن بن مهدي'.
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت حافظ عارف بالرجال والحديث قال بن المديني ما رأيت أعلم منهReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 351, entry 4018 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 645, entry 3323 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كان أفقه من يحيى القطانal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 645, entry 3323 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ما رأيت في يده كتابا قطالذهلي, al-Kashif, p. 645, entry 3323 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أعلم الناس بالحديث عبد الرحمنعلي بن المديني, al-Kashif, p. 645, entry 3323 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
معاويةProposed match · d. 152–172 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
معاوية بن صالح بن حدير بن سعيد بن سعد بن فهر
d. 152–172 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 19 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'معاويه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- معاوية بن أبي مزرد : عبد الرحمن بن يسار d. 141–150 AH
- معاوية no death date
- معاوية بن عمرو بن المهلب بن عمرو بن شبيب d. 213–215 AH
- معاوية بن عمار بن أبي معاوية no death date
- معاوية no death date
- معاوية no death date
- معاوية بن أبي عياش no death date
- معاوية بن هشام ، ويقال : معاوية بن أبي العباس d. 204–205 AH
- محمد بن خازم d. 194–195 AH
- معاوية بن حفص . d. 201–210 AH
- معاوية بن فلان ، أو فلان بن معاوية no death date
What the critics say
- صالح صدوق إمامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 276, entry 5526 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
العلاء بن الحارثProposed match · d. 136 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
العلاء بن الحارث بن عبد الوارث
d. 136 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'العلاء بن الحارث'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- العلاء بن الحارث no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق فقيه لكن رمي بالقدر وقد اختلطIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 434, entry 5230 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- قدريal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 103, entry 4324 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- مقدم على أصحاب مكحولدحيم, al-Kashif, p. 103, entry 4324 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة تغير عقلهأبو داود, al-Kashif, p. 103, entry 4324 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زيد بن أرطاةProposed match · d. 111–120 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زيد بن أرطأة بن حذافة بن لوذان
d. 111–120 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زيد بن ارطاه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زيد بن أرطاة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة عابدReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 221, entry 2115 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 414, entry 1720 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
جبير بن نفيرProposed match · d. 75–80 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
جبير بن نفير بن مالك بن عامر
d. 75–80 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 972 carries the name form 'جبير بن نفير'.
What the critics say
- ثقة جليلReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 138, entry 904 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 290, entry 761 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
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النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

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Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

بذلك إسحاق بن منصور: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
العلاء بن الحارث: a critic notes ikhtilat, taghayyur, bid'a.
عبد الرحمن بن مهدي from معاوية: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
معاوية from العلاء بن الحارث: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
جبير بن نفير is not recorded as a Companion in the data loaded.

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