Jami' al-Tirmidhi 2986 · Project Hadith

2986

حدثنا أحمد بن منيع قال: حدثنا مروان بن معاوية، ويزيد بن هارون، ومحمد بن عبيد، عن إسماعيل بن أبي خالد، عن الحارث بن شبيل، عن أبي عمرو الشيباني، عن زيد بن أرقم، قال: " كنا نتكلم على عهد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم في الصلاة فنزلت @QB@ {وقوموا لله قانتين} @QE@ [البقرة: ٢٣٨] فأمرنا بالسكوت " حدثنا أحمد بن منيع قال: حدثنا هشيم قال: حدثنا إسماعيل بن أبي خالد، نحوه، وزاد فيه: «ونهينا عن الكلام» : " هذا حديث حسن صحيح، وأبو عمرو الشيباني اسمه: سعد بن إياس "

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 217, no. 2986. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسن صحيحGood and sound (al-Tirmidhi) · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 217, no. 2986Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أحمد بن منيعProposed match · d. 243–244 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أحمد بن منيع بن عبد الرحمن
d. 243–244 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1647 carries the name form 'احمد بن منيع'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 85, entry 114 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 204, entry 92 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
مروان بن معاويةProposed match · d. 193 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
مروان بن معاوية بن الحارث بن أسماء بن خارجة بن عيينة بن حصن بن حذيفة بن بدر
d. 193 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 144 carries the name form 'مروان بن معاويه'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ وكان يدلس أسماء الشيوخReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 526, entry 6575 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 254, entry 5370 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
إسماعيل بن أبي خالدProposed match · d. 136–148 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
إسماعيل بن أبي خالد : هرمز ، ويقال : سعد ، ويقال : كثير
d. 136–148 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 11 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'اسماعيل بن ابي خالد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد d. 145 AH
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
- إسماعيل بن أبي خالد no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 107, entry 438 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
الحارث بن شبيلProposed match · d. 150–160 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
الحارث بن شبيل بن عوف بن أبي حبيبة ، ويقال : ابن شبل
d. 150–160 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 6664 carries the name form 'الحارث بن شبيل'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 146, entry 1026 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 303, entry 857 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي عمرو الشيبانيProposed match · d. 95–101 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سعد بن إياس
d. 95–101 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو عمرو الشيباني'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- إسحاق بن مرار d. 192–210 AH
- أبو عمرو الشيباني d. 91 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة مخضرمReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 230, entry 2233 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زيد بن أرقمProposed match · d. 60–68 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زيد بن أرقم بن زيد بن قيس بن النعمان بن مالك بن الأغر بن ثعلبة بن كعب بن الخزرج بن الحارث بن الخزرج
d. 60–68 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زيد بن ارقم'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زيد بن أرقم d. 41 AH
What the critics say
- صحابي مشهور أول مشاهده الخندق وأنزل الله تصديقه في سورة المنافقينCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 222, entry 2116 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- من خواص عليal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 414, entry 1721 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

الترمذي from أحمد بن منيع: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
مروان بن معاوية from إسماعيل بن أبي خالد: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.

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