Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3158 · Project Hadith

3158

حدثنا عبد بن حميد قال: حدثنا يعلى بن عبيد قال: حدثنا عمر بن ذر، عن أبيه، عن سعيد بن جبير، عن ابن عباس، قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم لجبريل: «ما يمنعك أن تزورنا أكثر مما تزورنا؟» قال: فنزلت هذه الآية @QB@ {وما نتنزل إلا بأمر ربك له ما بين أيدينا وما خلفنا} @QE@ [مريم: ٦٤] إلى آخر الآية. هذا حديث حسن. حدثنا الحسين بن حريث قال: حدثنا وكيع، عن عمر بن ذر، نحوه

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 315, no. 3158. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسنGood · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 315, no. 3158Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبد بن حميدProposed match · d. 249 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد بن حميد بن نصر ، قيل اسمه : عبد الحميد
d. 249 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1919 carries the name form 'عبد بن حميد'.
What the critics say
- في دلائل النبوةالبخاري, al-Kashif, p. 676, entry 3524 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحميد حدثنا عثمان بن عمر فهذا هو إن شاء اللهعبد, al-Kashif, p. 676, entry 3524 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
يعلى بن عبيدProposed match · d. 207–209 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يعلى بن عبيد بن أبي أمية
d. 207–209 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'يعلي بن عبيد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- يعلى بن عطاء d. 120 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة إلا في حديثه عن الثوري ففيه لينIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 609, entry 7844 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقه عابدReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 397, entry 6415 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة إلا في سفيانبن معين, al-Kashif, p. 397, entry 6415 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عمر بن ذرProposed match · d. 150–157 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عمر بن ذر بن عبد الله بن زرارة
d. 150–157 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عمر بن ذر'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عمر بن ذر no death date
- عمر بن ذر no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة رمي بالإرجاءReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 412, entry 4893 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة بليغ واعظ صالح لكنه مرجيءReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 60, entry 4050 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبيهProposed match · d. before 100 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
ذر بن عبد الله بن زرارة
d. before 100 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 'ابيه' read from the previous narrator's name (nasab) and his teachers as Itqan records them.
What the critics say
- ثقة عابد رمي بالإرجاءReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 203, entry 1840 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
سعيد بن جبيرProposed match · d. 94–95 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سعيد بن جبير بن هشام
d. 94–95 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 536 carries the name form 'سعيد بن جبير'.
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت فقيهReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 234, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن عباسProposed match · d. 65–73 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عباس بن عبد المطلب
d. 65–73 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن عباس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن عباس الحميري no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

عمر بن ذر: a critic notes bid'a.
أبيه: a critic notes bid'a.
الترمذي from عبد بن حميد: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبيه from سعيد بن جبير: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
سعيد بن جبير from ابن عباس: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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