Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3229 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا علي بن حجر قال: أخبرنا الوليد بن مسلم، عن زهير بن محمد، عن رجل، عن أبي العالية، عن أبي بن كعب، قال: سألت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم عن قول الله تعالى: @QB@ {وأرسلناه إلى مائة ألف أو يزيدون} قال: «عشرون ألفا» : «هذا حديث غريب»

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Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 364, no. 3229. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 364, no. 3229Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
علي بن حجرProposed match · d. 241–244 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
علي بن حجر بن إياس بن مقاتل بن مخادش بن مشمرج بن خالد
d. 241–244 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1642 carries the name form 'علي بن حجر'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 399, entry 4700 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة مأمون حافظ قلتالنسائي, al-Kashif, p. 36, entry 3890 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
أخبرنا · akhbaranā, “he informed us”
الوليد بن مسلمProposed match · d. 194–196 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
الوليد بن مسلم
d. 194–196 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'الوليد بن مسلم'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- الوليد بن مسلم no death date
- الوليد بن مسلم no death date
- الوليد بن مسلم بن شهاب no death date
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 355, entry 6093 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زهير بن محمدProposed match · d. 162 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زهير بن محمد
d. 162 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زهير بن محمد'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زهير بن محمد بن قمير بن شعيب d. 256–258 AH
- زهير بن محمد no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة يغرب ويأتي بما ينكرal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 408, entry 1666 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
رجلNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي العاليةProposed match · d. 90–111 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
رفيع بن مهران
d. 90–111 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابو العاليه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زياد بن فيروز ، وقيل : زياد بن أذينة ، وقيل : أذينة ، وقيل كلثوم d. 90 AH
- أبو العالية no death date
- أبو العالية no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة كثير الإرسالReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 210, entry 1953 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبي بن كعبProposed match · d. 19–33 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أبي بن كعب بن قيس بن عبيد بن زيد بن معاوية بن عمرو وهو حديلة ، وهو اسم أمه ، ويقال لبني عمرو هذا بنو حديلة وهو ابن مالك بن النجار ، واسمه تيم اللات ، ويقال : تيم الله بن ثعلبة بن عمرو بن الخزرج الأكبر
d. 19–33 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 182 carries the name form 'ابي بن كعب'.
What the critics say
- من فضلاء الصحابة اختلف في سنة موته اختلافا كثيرا قيل سنة تسع عشرة وقيل سنة اثنتين وثلاثين وقيل غير ذلكCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 96, entry 283 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

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The chain does not name one of its narrators.
أبي العالية: a critic notes irsal.
الترمذي from علي بن حجر: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
علي بن حجر from الوليد بن مسلم: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
الوليد بن مسلم from زهير بن محمد: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبي العالية from أبي بن كعب: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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