Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3256 · Project Hadith

3256

حدثنا علي بن سعيد الكندي قال: حدثنا أبو محياة، عن عبد الملك بن عمير، عن ابن أخي عبد الله بن سلام، قال: لما أريد عثمان جاء عبد الله بن سلام، فقال له عثمان: ما جاء بك؟ قال: جئت في نصرتك، قال: اخرج إلى الناس فاطردهم عني فإنك خارج خير لي منك داخل، فخرج عبد الله، إلى الناس فقال: «أيها الناس إنه كان اسمي في الجاهلية فلان فسماني رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم عبد الله» ونزلت في: @QB@ {وشهد شاهد من بني إسرائيل على مثله فآمن واستكبرتم إن الله لا يهدي القوم الظالمين} @QE@ [الأحقاف: ١٠] ونزلت في @QB@ {قل كفى بالله شهيدا بيني وبينكم ومن عنده علم الكتاب} @QE@ [الرعد: ٤٣] إن لله سيفا مغمودا عنكم وإن الملائكة قد جاورتكم في بلدكم هذا الذي نزل فيه نبيكم، فالله الله في هذا الرجل أن تقتلوه، فوالله إن قتلتموه لتطردن جيرانكم الملائكة، ولتسلن سيف الله المغمود عنكم فلا يغمد إلى يوم القيامة، قال: فقالوا: اقتلوا اليهودي واقتلوا عثمان: «هذا حديث غريب» وقد رواه شعيب بن صفوان، عن عبد الملك بن عمير، عن ابن محمد بن عبد الله بن سلام، عن جده عبد الله بن سلام

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Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 380, no. 3256. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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هذا حديث غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 380, no. 3256Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
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Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
علي بن سعيد الكنديProposed match · d. 249–251 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
علي بن سعيد بن مسروق بن معدان
d. 249–251 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 3509 carries the name form 'علي بن سعيد الكندي'.
What the critics say
- وثقهالنسائي, al-Kashif, p. 40, entry 3920 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو محياةProposed match · d. 180 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن يعلى بن حرملة
d. 180 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 2414 carries the name form 'ابو محياه'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 598, entry 7676 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 379, entry 6271 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد الملك بن عميرProposed match · d. 133–136 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الملك بن عمير بن سويد بن جارية
d. 133–136 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبد الملك بن عمير'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الملك بن عمير no death date
- عبد الملك بن عمير no death date
- عبد الملك بن عبيد ، ويقال : ابن عبيدة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة فصيح عالم تغير حفظه وربما دلسReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 364, entry 4200 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- صالح الحديث ليس بالحافظأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 667, entry 3468 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس به بأسالنسائي وغيره, al-Kashif, p. 667, entry 3468 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن أخي عبد الله بن سلامProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
ابن أخي عبد الله بن سلام
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن اخي عبد الله بن سلام'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن أخي عبد الله بن سلام no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

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عبد الملك بن عمير: a critic notes taghayyur.
الترمذي from علي بن سعيد الكندي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
علي بن سعيد الكندي from أبو محياة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أبو محياة from عبد الملك بن عمير: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عبد الملك بن عمير from ابن أخي عبد الله بن سلام: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.
ابن أخي عبد الله بن سلام is not recorded as a Companion in the data loaded.

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