Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3411 · Project Hadith

3411

حدثنا محمد بن عبد الأعلى قال: حدثنا عثام بن علي، عن الأعمش، عن عطاء بن السائب، عن أبيه، عن عبد الله بن عمرو، قال: «رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يعقد التسبيح» : «هذا حديث حسن غريب من حديث الأعمش»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 477, no. 3411. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسن غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 477, no. 3411Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن عبد الأعلىProposed match · d. 245 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن عبد الأعلى
d. 245 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'محمد بن عبد الاعلي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن عبد الأعلى d. 392 AH
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 491, entry 6060 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقهأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 191, entry 4984 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عثام بن عليProposed match · d. 183–195 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عثام بن علي بن هجير بن بجير بن زرعة بن عمرو بن مالك بن خالد بن ربيعة بن الوحيد : عامر بن كعب بن عامر بن كلاب
d. 183–195 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 6562 carries the name form 'عثام بن علي'.
What the critics say
- صدوقTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 382, entry 4448 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقهأبو زرعة, al-Kashif, p. 697, entry 3677 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
الأعمشProposed match · d. 145–148 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سليمان بن مهران
d. 145–148 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 467 carries the name form 'الاعمش'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ عارف بالقراءات ورع لكنه يدلسReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 254, entry 2615 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 464, entry 2132 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- له ألف وثلاثمائة حديثبن المديني, al-Kashif, p. 464, entry 2132 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عطاء بن السائبProposed match · d. 133–137 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عطاء بن السائب بن مالك ، ويقال : زيد ، ويقال : يزيد
d. 133–137 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عطاء بن السايب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عطاء بن السائب no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق اختلطTruthful, makes mistakes · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 391, entry 4592 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة ساء حفظه بآخرهReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- سمع منه حماد بن زيد قبل أن يتغيرأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة رجل صالح يختم القرآن كل ليلةأحمد, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبيهProposed match · d. 91–100 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
السائب بن مالك ، ويقال : ابن يزيد ، ويقال : ابن زيد
d. 91–100 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 'ابيه' read from the previous narrator's name (nasab) and his teachers as Itqan records them.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 228, entry 2201 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 425, entry 1794 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد الله بن عمروProposed match · d. 63–77 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عمرو بن العاص بن وائل بن هاشم بن سعيد بن سعد بن سهم بن عمرو بن هصيص بن كعب بن لؤي بن غالب
d. 63–77 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 18 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبد الله بن عمرو'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الله بن عمرو no death date
- عبد الله بن عمرو بن حلحلة no death date
- عبد الله بن عمرو no death date
- عبد الله بن عمرو no death date
- عبد الله بن عمرو no death date
- عبد الله بن عمرو بن علقمة no death date
- عبد الله بن عمرو بن أمية no death date
- عبيد الله بن عمرو بن أبي الوليد d. 180–181 AH
- عبد الله بن عمرو no death date
- عبد الله بن عمر بن الخطاب d. 73 AH
- عبد الله بن عمرو no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

عطاء بن السائب: a critic notes ikhtilat.
الترمذي from محمد بن عبد الأعلى: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
الأعمش from عطاء بن السائب: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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