Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3451 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا محمد بن بشار قال: حدثنا أبو عامر العقدي قال: حدثنا سليمان بن سفيان المديني قال: حدثني بلال بن يحيى بن طلحة بن عبيد الله، عن أبيه، عن جده طلحة بن عبيد الله، أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم كان إذا رأى الهلال قال: «اللهم أهلله علينا باليمن والإيمان والسلامة والإسلام، ربي وربك الله» : «هذا حديث حسن غريب»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 503, no. 3451. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسن غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 503, no. 3451Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن بشارProposed match · d. 252 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن بشار بن عثمان بن داود بن كيسان
d. 252 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'محمد بن بشار'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن يسار no death date
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 469, entry 5754 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- فيه ترك حديثهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقه غير واحد وقدal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- عن عائشةمرة, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال رجل أعيذك بالله ما أفصحكقالت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أختلف إلى أبي عبيدة فقال قد بان عليككنت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو عامر العقديProposed match · d. 204–205 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الملك بن عمرو
d. 204–205 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 2710 carries the name form 'ابو عامر العقدي'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 364, entry 4199 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 667, entry 3467 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
سليمان بن سفيان المدينيProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سليمان بن سفيان
No death date recorded
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 4659 carries the name form 'سليمان بن سفيان المديني'.
What the critics say
- ضعيفWeak · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 251, entry 2563 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ضعفوهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 459, entry 2092 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثني · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
بلال بن يحيى بن طلحة بن عبيد اللهProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
بلال بن يحيى بن طلحة بن عبيد الله
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'بلال بن يحيي بن طلحه بن عبيد الله'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- بلال بن يحيى بن طلحة بن عبيد الله no death date
What the critics say
- لينSoft in hadith · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 129, entry 785 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أبيهProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
يحيى بن طلحة بن عبيد الله
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 'ابيه' read from the previous narrator's name (nasab) and his teachers as Itqan records them.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 592, entry 7572 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 368, entry 6187 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
جده طلحة بن عبيد اللهNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
no term
النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

جده طلحة بن عبيد الله: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
الترمذي from محمد بن بشار: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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