Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3652 · Project Hadith

3652

حدثنا أحمد بن منيع قال: حدثنا روح بن عبادة قال: حدثنا زكريا بن إسحاق قال: حدثنا عمرو بن دينار، عن ابن عباس، قال: «مكث النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم بمكة ثلاث عشرة - يعني يوحى إليه - وتوفي وهو ابن ثلاث وستين» وفي الباب عن عائشة، وأنس، ودغفل بن حنظلة ولا يصح لدغفل سماع من النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم. وحديث ابن عباس حديث حسن غريب من حديث عمرو بن دينار

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 604, no. 3652. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

حديث ابن عباس حديث حسن غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 604, no. 3652Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أحمد بن منيعProposed match · d. 243–244 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أحمد بن منيع بن عبد الرحمن
d. 243–244 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1647 carries the name form 'احمد بن منيع'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 85, entry 114 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 204, entry 92 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
روح بن عبادةProposed match · d. 205–207 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
روح بن عبادة بن العلاء بن حسان بن عمرو بن مرثد
d. 205–207 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 2793 carries the name form 'روح بن عباده'.
What the critics say
- ثقة فاضل له تصانيفReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 211, entry 1962 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 398, entry 1593 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- من العلماءal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 398, entry 1593 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
زكريا بن إسحاقProposed match · d. 151–160 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زكريا بن إسحاق
d. 151–160 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 4087 carries the name form 'زكريا بن اسحاق'.
What the critics say
- ثقة رمي بالقدرReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 215, entry 2020 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 405, entry 1641 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عمرو بن دينارProposed match · d. 116–129 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عمرو بن دينار
d. 116–129 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عمرو بن دينار'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عمر بن بيان no death date
- صالح بن دينار no death date
- عمرو بن دينار no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 421, entry 5024 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن عباسProposed match · d. 65–73 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عباس بن عبد المطلب
d. 65–73 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن عباس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن عباس الحميري no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

زكريا بن إسحاق: a critic notes bid'a.
الترمذي from أحمد بن منيع: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

These are leads for a scholar to review, not results.

Identified

Who

Why this match

Proposed match

Proposed identity

Why this match

What the critics say

Proposed match

Proposed identity

Why this match

What the critics say

Proposed match

Proposed identity

Why this match

What the critics say

Proposed match

Proposed identity

Why this match

Other candidates considered

What the critics say

Proposed match

Proposed identity

Why this match

Other candidates considered

What the critics say

Identified

Who