Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3741 · Project Hadith

3741

حدثنا أبو سعيد الأشج قال: حدثنا أبو عبد الرحمن بن منصور العنزي، عن عقبة بن علقمة اليشكري، قال: سمعت علي بن أبي طالب، قال: سمعت أذني من في رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وهو يقول: «طلحة والزبير جاراي في الجنة» . هذا حديث غريب لا نعرفه إلا من هذا الوجه

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Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 643, no. 3741. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 643, no. 3741Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو سعيد الأشجProposed match · d. 223–257 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن سعيد بن حصين
d. 223–257 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1233 carries the name form 'ابو سعيد الاشج'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 305, entry 3354 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 558, entry 2751 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة إمام أهل زمانهأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 558, entry 2751 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ما رأيت أحفظ منهالشطوي, al-Kashif, p. 558, entry 2751 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أبو عبد الرحمن بن منصور العنزيProposed match · d. 181–190 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
النضر بن منصور
d. 181–190 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 9241 carries the name form 'ابو عبد الرحمن بن منصور العنزي'.
What the critics say
- ضعيفWeak · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 562, entry 7150 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ضعفه جماعةal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 322, entry 5842 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عقبة بن علقمة اليشكريProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عقبة بن علقمة
No death date recorded
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 11198 carries the name form 'عقبه بن علقمه اليشكري'.
What the critics say
- ضعيفWeak · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 395, entry 4646 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ضعفal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 30, entry 3844 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
سمعت · samiʿtu, “i heard”
علي بن أبي طالبProposed match · d. 40 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
علي بن أبي طالب : عبد مناف بن عبد المطلب بن هاشم بن عبد مناف
d. 40 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'علي بن ابي طالب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- علي بن أبي طالب : حماد no death date
- علي بن أبي طالب no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
سمعت · samiʿtu, “i heard”
أذني من فيNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

أذني من في: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
الترمذي from أبو سعيد الأشج: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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