Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3799 · Project Hadith

3799

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حدثنا القاسم بن دينار الكوفي قال: حدثنا عبيد الله بن موسى، عن عبد العزيز بن سياه، عن حبيب بن أبي ثابت، عن عطاء بن يسار، عن عائشة، قالت: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «ما خير عمار بين أمرين إلا اختار أرشدهما» هذا حديث غريب لا نعرفه إلا من هذا الوجه من حديث عبد العزيز بن سياه، وهو شيخ كوفي، وقد روى عنه الناس، وله ابن يقال له: يزيد بن عبد العزيز ثقة روى عنه يحيى بن آدم

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 667, no. 3799. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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حدثنا محمود بن غيلان قال: حدثنا وكيع قال: حدثنا سفيان، عن عبد الملك بن عمير، عن مولى لربعي، عن ربعي، عن حذيفة، قال: كنا جلوسا عند النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، فقال: «إني لا أدري ما قدر بقائي فيكم فاقتدوا باللذين من بعدي - وأشار إلى أبي بكر وعمر - واهتدوا بهدي عمار، وما حدثكم ابن مسعود فصدقوه» هذا حديث حسن " وروى إبراهيم بن سعد، هذا الحديث عن سفيان الثوري، عن عبد الملك بن عمير، عن هلال، مولى ربعي عن ربعي، عن حذيفة، عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم نحوه. وقد روى سالم المرادي الكوفي، عن عمرو بن هرم، عن ربعي بن حراش، عن حذيفة، عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم نحو هذا

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 667, no. 3799. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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هذا حديث غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 667, no. 3799Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
القاسم بن دينار الكوفيProposed match · d. 245–255 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
القاسم بن زكريا بن دينار ، وربما نسب إلى جده
d. 245–255 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 5540 carries the name form 'القاسم بن دينار الكوفي'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 450, entry 5459 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبيد الله بن موسىProposed match · d. 212–214 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبيد الله بن موسى بن أبي المختار : باذام
d. 212–214 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبيد الله بن موسي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الله بن موسى بن إبراهيم بن محمد بن طلحة بن عبيد الله d. 181–190 AH
- عبيد الله بن محمد بن حفص بن عمر بن موسى بن عبيد الله بن d. 228 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة كان يتشيعReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 375, entry 4345 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 687, entry 3593 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 687, entry 3593 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد العزيز بن سياهProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد العزيز بن سياه
No death date recorded
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 3740 carries the name form 'عبد العزيز بن سياه'.
What the critics say
- صدوق يتشيعTruthful, makes mistakes · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 357, entry 4100 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- شيعي صدوقal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 655, entry 3391 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
حبيب بن أبي ثابتProposed match · d. 119–122 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
حبيب بن أبي ثابت : قيس بن دينار ، ويقال : قيس بن هند ويقال : هند
d. 119–122 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'حبيب بن ابي ثابت'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- حبيب بن أبي ثابت no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة فقيه جليل وكان كثير الإرسال والتدليسReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 150, entry 1084 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كان ثقة مجتهدا فقيهاal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 307, entry 902 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عطاء بن يسارProposed match · d. 94–104 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عطاء بن يسار
d. 94–104 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عطاء بن يسار'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عطاء بن يزيد d. 105–107 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة فاضل صاحب مواعظ وعبادةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 392, entry 4605 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كان من كبار التابعين وعلمائهمal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 25, entry 3810 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عائشةProposed match · d. 57–58 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عائشة بنت أبي بكر الصديق
d. 57–58 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عايشه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عائشة بنت طلحة بن عبيد الله d. after 100 AH
- عائشة بنت سعد بن أبي وقاص d. 117 AH
- عائشة بنت سعد no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

عبيد الله بن موسى: a critic notes bid'a.
عبد العزيز بن سياه: a critic notes bid'a.
حبيب بن أبي ثابت: a critic notes irsal.
الترمذي from القاسم بن دينار الكوفي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
حبيب بن أبي ثابت from عطاء بن يسار: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

These are leads for a scholar to review, not results.

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Status

هذا حديث حسنGood · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 667, no. 3799Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمود بن غيلانProposed match · d. 239–249 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمود بن غيلان
d. 239–249 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 817 carries the name form 'محمود بن غيلان'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 522, entry 6516 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 246, entry 5323 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
وكيعProposed match · d. 196–198 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
وكيع بن الجراح بن مليح
d. 196–198 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 5 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'وكيع'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- وكيع بن عدس ، ويقال: حدس no death date
- شريك بن عبد الله بن أبي شريك : الحارث بن أوس بن الحارث بن الأذهل بن وهبيل بن سعد بن مالك بن النخع d. 177–178 AH
- وكيع بن محرز بن وكيع d. 181–190 AH
- محمد بن خلف بن حيان بن صدقة بن زياد d. 306 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ عابدReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 581, entry 7414 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 350, entry 6056 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
سفيانTwo or more candidates · d. 197–198 or 164 or 159–162 AH
Two or more candidates
More than one narrator fits this name. None is chosen.
Candidates
- سفيان بن عيينة بن أبي عمران : ميمون d. 197–198 AH
- شيبان بن عبد الرحمن d. 164 AH
- سفيان بن سعيد بن مسروق d. 159–162 AH
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد الملك بن عميرProposed match · d. 133–136 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الملك بن عمير بن سويد بن جارية
d. 133–136 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبد الملك بن عمير'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الملك بن عمير no death date
- عبد الملك بن عمير no death date
- عبد الملك بن عبيد ، ويقال : ابن عبيدة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة فصيح عالم تغير حفظه وربما دلسReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 364, entry 4200 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- صالح الحديث ليس بالحافظأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 667, entry 3468 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس به بأسالنسائي وغيره, al-Kashif, p. 667, entry 3468 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
مولى لربعيProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
هلال
No death date recorded
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 12087 carries the name form 'مولي لربعي'.
What the critics say
- مقبولAcceptable where corroborated · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 576, entry 7353 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ربعيProposed match · d. 100–104 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
ربعي بن حراش بن جحش بن عمرو بن عبد الله بن بجاد بن عبد مالك بن غالب بن قطيعة بن عبس بن بغيض بن ريث بن غطفان بن سعد بن قيس غيلان بن مضر بن نزار بن معد بن عدنان
d. 100–104 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ربعي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ربعي بن إبراهيم بن مقسم d. 197 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة عابد مخضرمReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 205, entry 1879 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- حجة قانت لله لم يكذب قطal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 390, entry 1521 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
حذيفةProposed match · d. 35–36 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
حذيفة بن اليمان ، وهو حذيفة بن حسيل ، ويقال : حسل بن جابر بن أسيد بن عمرو بن مالك ، ويقال : ابن اليمان بن جابر بن عمرو بن ربيعة بن جروة بن الحارث بن مازن بن قطيعة بن عبس بن بغيض بن ريث بن غطفان بن سعد بن قيس عيلان بن مضر بن نزار بن معد بن عدنان
d. 35–36 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'حذيفه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- حذيفة no death date
- حذيفة no death date
- حذيفة بن أسيد ، ويقال : ابن أمية بن أسيد d. 42 AH
What the critics say
- صحابي جليل من السابقين صح في مسلم عنه أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أعلمه بما كان وما يكون إلى أن تقوم الساعة وأبوه صحابي أيضاCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 154, entry 1156 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
no term
النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

سفيان: more than one narrator fits, so the links around this name are not checked.
عبد الملك بن عمير: a critic notes taghayyur.
الترمذي from محمود بن غيلان: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عبد الملك بن عمير from مولى لربعي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عبد الملك بن عمير from مولى لربعي: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.
مولى لربعي from ربعي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

These are leads for a scholar to review, not results.

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