Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3844 · Project Hadith

3844

حدثنا قتيبة قال: حدثنا ابن لهيعة، عن مشرح بن هاعان، عن عقبة بن عامر، قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «أسلم الناس وآمن عمرو بن العاص» : «هذا حديث غريب لا نعرفه إلا من حديث ابن لهيعة عن مشرح، وليس إسناده بالقوي»

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Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 686, no. 3844. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 686, no. 3844Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
قتيبةProposed match · d. 240–241 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
قتيبة بن سعيد بن جميل بن طريف بن عبد الله ، ويقال : اسمه يحيى ، وقيل : علي
d. 240–241 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'قتيبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- قتيبة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 454, entry 5522 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
ابن لهيعةProposed match · d. 170–175 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن لهيعة بن عقبة بن فرعان بن ربيعة بن ثوبان
d. 170–175 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 823 carries the name form 'ابن لهيعه'.
What the critics say
- صدوقTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 319, entry 3563 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ضعفal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 590, entry 2934 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- سمعت أحمد يقول من كان مثل بن لهيعة بمصر في كثرة حديثه وإتقانه وضبطهأبو داود, al-Kashif, p. 590, entry 2934 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- العمل على تضعيف حديثهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 590, entry 2934 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
مشرح بن هاعانProposed match · d. 120–128 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
مشرح بن هاعان
d. 120–128 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 9435 carries the name form 'مشرح بن هاعان'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 265, entry 5456 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عقبة بن عامرProposed match · d. 58–60 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عقبة بن عامر بن عبس بن عمرو بن عدي بن عمرو بن رفاعة بن مودوعة بن عدي بن غنم بن الربعة بن رشدان بن قيس بن جهينة
d. 58–60 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عقبه بن عامر'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عقبة بن عامر no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

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الترمذي from قتيبة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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