Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3870 · Project Hadith

3870

حدثنا سليمان بن عبد الجبار البغدادي قال: حدثنا علي بن قادم قال: حدثنا أسباط بن نصر الهمداني، عن السدي، عن صبيح مولى أم سلمة، عن زيد بن أرقم، أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال لعلي وفاطمة والحسن والحسين: «أنا حرب لمن حاربتم، وسلم لمن سالمتم» : «هذا حديث غريب إنما نعرفه من هذا الوجه وصبيح مولى أم سلمة ليس بمعروف»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 698, no. 3870. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 698, no. 3870Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
سليمان بن عبد الجبار البغداديProposed match · d. 151–160 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سليمان بن عبد الجبار بن زريق
d. 151–160 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 10839 carries the name form 'سليمان بن عبد الجبار البغدادي'.
What the critics say
- صدوقTruthful · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 252, entry 2583 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 461, entry 2107 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
علي بن قادمProposed match · d. 212–213 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
علي بن قادم
d. 212–213 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'علي بن قادم'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- علي بن قادم no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق يتشيعTruthful, makes mistakes · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 404, entry 4785 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- محله الصدق وضعفه بن معينأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 45, entry 3955 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أسباط بن نصر الهمدانيProposed match · d. 161–170 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أسباط بن نصر
d. 161–170 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'اسباط بن نصر الهمداني'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أسباط بن نصر الهمداني no death date
- أسباط بن نصر الهمداني no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق كثير الخطأ يغربIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 98, entry 321 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- فيه أحمدal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 232, entry 268 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
السديProposed match · d. 127–129 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
إسماعيل بن عبد الرحمن بن أبي كريمة
d. 127–129 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'السدي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الرحمن بن أبي كريمة : نهشل no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
صبيح مولى أم سلمةProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
صبيح
No death date recorded
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 10609 carries the name form 'صبيح مولي ام سلمه'.
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زيد بن أرقمProposed match · d. 60–68 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زيد بن أرقم بن زيد بن قيس بن النعمان بن مالك بن الأغر بن ثعلبة بن كعب بن الخزرج بن الحارث بن الخزرج
d. 60–68 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زيد بن ارقم'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زيد بن أرقم d. 41 AH
What the critics say
- صحابي مشهور أول مشاهده الخندق وأنزل الله تصديقه في سورة المنافقينCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 222, entry 2116 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- من خواص عليal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 414, entry 1721 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

علي بن قادم: a critic notes bid'a.
أسباط بن نصر الهمداني: a critic notes wahm.
الترمذي from سليمان بن عبد الجبار البغدادي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
علي بن قادم from أسباط بن نصر الهمداني: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
أسباط بن نصر الهمداني from السدي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
السدي from صبيح مولى أم سلمة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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