Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3884 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا القاسم بن دينار الكوفي قال: حدثنا معاوية بن عمرو، عن زائدة، عن عبد الملك بن عمير، عن موسى بن طلحة، قال: «ما رأيت أحدا أفصح من عائشة» : «هذا حديث حسن صحيح غريب»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 704, no. 3884. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسن صحيح غريبal-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 704, no. 3884Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
القاسم بن دينار الكوفيProposed match · d. 245–255 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
القاسم بن زكريا بن دينار ، وربما نسب إلى جده
d. 245–255 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 5540 carries the name form 'القاسم بن دينار الكوفي'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 450, entry 5459 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
معاوية بن عمروProposed match · d. 213–215 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
معاوية بن عمرو بن المهلب بن عمرو بن شبيب
d. 213–215 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'معاويه بن عمرو'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- معاوية بن عمرو بن غلاب ، ويقال : معاوية بن عمرو بن خالد بن غلاب ، ويقال : غلاب اسم امرأة d. 141–150 AH
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 538, entry 6768 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زائدةProposed match · d. 160–163 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زائدة بن قدامة
d. 160–163 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زايده'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زائدة بن خراش ، ويقال : زائدة بن أوس no death date
- زائدة بن عمير d. 111–120 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت صاحب سنةReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 213, entry 1982 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 400, entry 1608 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة حجة صاحب سنةReliable, with emphasis · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 400, entry 1608 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد الملك بن عميرProposed match · d. 133–136 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الملك بن عمير بن سويد بن جارية
d. 133–136 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبد الملك بن عمير'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الملك بن عمير no death date
- عبد الملك بن عمير no death date
- عبد الملك بن عبيد ، ويقال : ابن عبيدة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة فصيح عالم تغير حفظه وربما دلسReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 364, entry 4200 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- صالح الحديث ليس بالحافظأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 667, entry 3468 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ليس به بأسالنسائي وغيره, al-Kashif, p. 667, entry 3468 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
موسى بن طلحةProposed match · d. 103–106 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
موسى بن طلحة بن عبيد الله
d. 103–106 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 871 carries the name form 'موسي بن طلحه'.
What the critics say
- ثقة جليلReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 551, entry 6978 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة وقور عابد كان يسمى المهدي في زمانهReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 305, entry 5705 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

عبد الملك بن عمير: a critic notes taghayyur.
الترمذي from القاسم بن دينار الكوفي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عبد الملك بن عمير from موسى بن طلحة: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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