Jami' al-Tirmidhi 3897 · Project Hadith

3897

حدثنا محمد بن إسماعيل قال: حدثنا عبد الله بن محمد قال: حدثنا عبيد الله بن موسى، والحسين بن محمد، عن إسرائيل، عن السدي، عن الوليد بن أبي هشام، عن زيد بن زائدة، عن عبد الله بن مسعود عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: «لا يبلغني أحد عن أحد شيئا» وقد روي هذا الحديث عن عبد الله بن مسعود عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم شيئا من هذا من غير هذا الوجه

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 709, no. 3897. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن إسماعيلProposed match · d. 256 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن إسماعيل بن إبراهيم بن المغيرة ابن بذدزبة ، وقيل : بردزبة ، وقيل : ابن الأحنف
d. 256 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 40 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'محمد بن اسماعيل'. This one's recorded teachers and students include a neighbour in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن إسماعيل no death date
- محمد بن إسماعيل no death date
- محمد بن إسماعيل no death date
- محمد بن إسماعيل no death date
- محمد بن إسماعيل no death date
- محمد بن إسماعيل no death date
- حمد بن إسماعيل no death date
- مؤمل بن إسماعيل d. 205–206 AH
- محمد بن إسماعيل بن أحمد بن أسيد بن عاصم d. 322 AH
- محمد بن إسماعيل بن يوسف d. 275–280 AH
- محمد بن إسماعيل بن مسلم بن أبي فديك : دينار d. 199–201 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبد الله بن محمدTwo or more candidates · d. 220–229 or 234–235 AH
Two or more candidates
More than one narrator fits this name. None is chosen.
Candidates
- عبد الله بن محمد بن عبد الله بن جعفر بن اليمان بن أخنس بن خنيس d. 220–229 AH
- عبد الله بن محمد بن أبي شيبة : إبراهيم بن عثمان بن خواستي d. 234–235 AH
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
عبيد الله بن موسىProposed match · d. 212–214 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبيد الله بن موسى بن أبي المختار : باذام
d. 212–214 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبيد الله بن موسي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الله بن موسى بن إبراهيم بن محمد بن طلحة بن عبيد الله d. 181–190 AH
- عبيد الله بن محمد بن حفص بن عمر بن موسى بن عبيد الله بن d. 228 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة كان يتشيعReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 375, entry 4345 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 687, entry 3593 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقةReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 687, entry 3593 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
إسرائيلProposed match · d. 160–164 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
إسرائيل بن يونس بن أبي إسحاق
d. 160–164 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'اسراييل'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- إسرائيل بن موسى d. 141–150 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة تكلم فيه بلا حجةIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 104, entry 401 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- حديث أبي إسحاق كما أحفظ السورةأحفظ, al-Kashif, p. 241, entry 336 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة وتعجب من حفظهأحمد, al-Kashif, p. 241, entry 336 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- هو من أتقن أصحاب أبي إسحاق وضعفه بن المدينيأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 241, entry 336 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
السديProposed match · d. 127–129 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
إسماعيل بن عبد الرحمن بن أبي كريمة
d. 127–129 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'السدي'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الرحمن بن أبي كريمة : نهشل no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
الوليد بن أبي هشامProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
الوليد بن هشام ، ويقال : ابن أبي هشام ، ويقال : ابن أبي هاشم
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 4 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'الوليد بن ابي هشام'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- الوليد بن أبي هشام no death date
- الوليد بن هشام بن معاوية بن هشام بن عقبة بن أبي معيط بن أبي عمرو بن أمية d. 121–130 AH
- الوليد بن أبي هشام : زياد d. 131–140 AH
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
عن · ʿan, “from”
زيد بن زائدةProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
زيد بن زائدة ، ويقال : ابن زائد
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'زيد بن زايده'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- زيد بن زائدة no death date
What the critics say
- مقبولAcceptable where corroborated · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 223, entry 2137 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثق حبal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 416, entry 1737 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد الله بن مسعودProposed match · d. 28–33 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن مسعود بن غافل بن حبيب بن شمخ بن مخزوم ، ويقال : ابن شمخ بن فار بن مخزوم بن صاهلة بن كاهل بن الحارث بن تميم بن سعد بن هذيل بن مدركة بن إلياس بن مضر بن نزار بن معد بن عدنان
d. 28–33 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عبد الله بن مسعود'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عبد الله بن مسعود ، وقيل : عروة no death date
- عبد الله بن مسعود d. 677 AH
What the critics say
- من غير مشورة لأمرت عليهم بن أم عبد أخرجه الترمذي روى أنه خلف تسعين ألف دينار سوى الرقيق والمواشيal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 597, entry 2979 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
no term
النبيThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

عبد الله بن محمد: more than one narrator fits, so the links around this name are not checked.
عبيد الله بن موسى: a critic notes bid'a.
الترمذي from محمد بن إسماعيل: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
إسرائيل from السدي: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
السدي from الوليد بن أبي هشام: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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