Jami' al-Tirmidhi 624 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا محمد بن بشار قال: حدثنا محمد بن جعفر قال: حدثنا شعبة، عن عمرو بن مرة قال: سألت أبا عبيدة: هل تذكر عن عبد الله شيئا؟ قال: «لا»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 3, p. 11, no. 624. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن بشارProposed match · d. 252 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن بشار بن عثمان بن داود بن كيسان
d. 252 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'محمد بن بشار'. This one's recorded teachers and students include a neighbour in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- محمد بن يسار no death date
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 469, entry 5754 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- فيه ترك حديثهal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- وثقه غير واحد وقدal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- عن عائشةمرة, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال رجل أعيذك بالله ما أفصحكقالت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أختلف إلى أبي عبيدة فقال قد بان عليككنت, al-Kashif, p. 159, entry 4740 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
محمد بن جعفرTwo or more candidates · d. 192–194 or 206 or before 220 or 203–204 AH
Two or more candidates
More than one narrator fits this name. None is chosen.
Candidates
- محمد بن جعفر d. 192–194 AH
- محمد بن جعفر d. 206 AH
- محمد بن جعفر ابن أبي الحسين d. before 220 AH
- محمد بن بكر بن عثمان d. 203–204 AH
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
شعبةProposed match · d. 160 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
شعبة بن الحجاج بن الورد
d. 160 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 8 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'شعبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- شعبة بن دينار no death date
- سعيد بن أبي عروبة : مهران d. 150–157 AH
- شعيب بن الحبحاب d. 130–131 AH
- شعبة no death date
- شعيب بن الليث بن سعد بن عبد الرحمن d. 180–199 AH
- شعبة بن دينار no death date
- شعبة d. 111 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ متقن كان الثوري يقول هو أمير المؤمنين في الحديث وهو أول من فتش بالعراق عن الرجال وذب عن السنة وكان عابداReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 266, entry 2790 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 485, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- من ألفي حديثal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 485, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عمرو بن مرةProposed match
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عمرو بن مرة بن عبس بن مالك بن المحرث بن مازن بن سعد بن مالك بن رفاعة بن نصر بن غطفان بن قيس بن جهينة
No death date recorded
Why this match
- 3 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عمرو بن مره'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عمرو بن مرة بن عبس الجهني الأزدي d. 118 AH
- عمرو بن مرزوق d. 223–224 AH
What the critics say
- صحابيCompanion · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 427, entry 5113 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد اللهNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

محمد بن جعفر: more than one narrator fits, so the links around this name are not checked.
عبد الله: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
الترمذي from محمد بن بشار: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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Not identified