Jami' al-Tirmidhi 867 · Project Hadith

867

حدثنا ابن أبي عمر قال: حدثنا سفيان بن عيينة، عن أيوب السختياني، قال: «كانوا يعدون عبد الله بن سعيد بن جبير أفضل من أبيه» ، " ولعبد الله أخ يقال له: عبد الملك بن سعيد بن جبير وقد روى عنه أيضا "

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Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 3, p. 209, no. 867. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
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Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
ابن أبي عمرProposed match · d. 243–244 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
محمد بن يحيى بن أبي عمر ، وقد ينسب إلى جده ، وقيل : إن أبا عمر كنية أبيه يحيى
d. 243–244 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1601 carries the name form 'ابن ابي عمر'.
What the critics say
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حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
سفيان بن عيينةProposed match · d. 197–198 AH
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Proposed identity
سفيان بن عيينة بن أبي عمران : ميمون
d. 197–198 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 192 carries the name form 'سفيان بن عيينه'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ فقيه إمام حجة إلا أنه تغير حفظه بأخرة وكان ربما دلس لكن عن الثقاتIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 245, entry 2451 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 449, entry 2002 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة ثبت حافظ إمامReliable, with emphasis · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 449, entry 2002 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
أيوب السختيانيProposed match · d. 124–132 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أيوب بن أبي تميمة : كيسان
d. 124–132 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ايوب السختياني'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- أيوب السختياني no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت حجة من كبار الفقهاء العبادReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 117, entry 605 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الإمامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 260, entry 511 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- كنا نقول عنده ألفا حديثبن علية, al-Kashif, p. 260, entry 511 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ما رأيت مثله كان سيد الفقهاءشعبة, al-Kashif, p. 260, entry 511 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

سفيان بن عيينة: a critic notes taghayyur.
الترمذي from ابن أبي عمر: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
سفيان بن عيينة from أيوب السختياني: the narrator is described with tadlīs and uses a term that does not state hearing.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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