Jami' al-Tirmidhi 877 · Project Hadith

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حدثنا قتيبة قال: حدثنا جرير، عن عطاء بن السائب، عن سعيد بن جبير، عن ابن عباس قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «نزل الحجر الأسود من الجنة، وهو أشد بياضا من اللبن فسودته خطايا بني آدم» وفي الباب عن عبد الله بن عمرو، وأبي هريرة.: «حديث ابن عباس حديث حسن صحيح»

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 3, p. 216, no. 877. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

حديث ابن عباس حديث حسن صحيحGood and sound (al-Tirmidhi) · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 3, p. 216, no. 877Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Shown without colour: the grade scale is a draft awaiting the client's scholars (OPEN-14).

Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
قتيبةProposed match · d. 240–241 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
قتيبة بن سعيد بن جميل بن طريف بن عبد الله ، ويقال : اسمه يحيى ، وقيل : علي
d. 240–241 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'قتيبه'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- قتيبة no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبتReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 454, entry 5522 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
جريرProposed match · d. 187–188 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
جرير بن عبد الحميد بن قرط
d. 187–188 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 7 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'جرير'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- جرير بن حازم بن زيد بن عبد الله بن شجاع d. 167–179 AH
- خريم بن فاتك ، وهو خريم بن الأخرم بن شداد بن عمرو بن فاتك : القليب بن عمرو بن أسد بن خزيمة no death date
- جرير بن عبد الله بن جابر ، وهو السليل بن مالك بن نضر بن ثعلبة بن جشم بن عويف d. 51–56 AH
- جرير بن يزيد بن جرير بن عبد الله d. 131–140 AH
- حريز بن عثمان بن جبر بن أبي أحمر بن أسعد d. 162–168 AH
- حرب بن شداد d. 151–171 AH
What the critics say
- ثقة صحيح الكتاب قيل كان في آخر عمره يهم من حفظهIbn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 139, entry 916 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عطاء بن السائبProposed match · d. 133–137 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عطاء بن السائب بن مالك ، ويقال : زيد ، ويقال : يزيد
d. 133–137 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'عطاء بن السايب'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- عطاء بن السائب no death date
What the critics say
- صدوق اختلطTruthful, makes mistakes · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 391, entry 4592 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- أحد الأعلامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة ساء حفظه بآخرهReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- سمع منه حماد بن زيد قبل أن يتغيرأبو حاتم, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة رجل صالح يختم القرآن كل ليلةأحمد, al-Kashif, p. 22, entry 3798 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
سعيد بن جبيرProposed match · d. 94–95 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سعيد بن جبير بن هشام
d. 94–95 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 536 carries the name form 'سعيد بن جبير'.
What the critics say
- ثقة ثبت فقيهReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 234, entry 2278 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
ابن عباسProposed match · d. 65–73 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد الله بن عباس بن عبد المطلب
d. 65–73 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 2 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'ابن عباس'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- ابن عباس الحميري no death date
What the critics say
No verdict loaded for this narrator yet.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

جرير: a critic notes wahm.
عطاء بن السائب: a critic notes ikhtilat.
الترمذي from قتيبة: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
عطاء بن السائب from سعيد بن جبير: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.
سعيد بن جبير from ابن عباس: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

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