Jami' al-Tirmidhi 964 · Project Hadith

964

حدثنا أحمد بن منيع، ومحمد بن الوزير الواسطي المعنى واحد، قالا: حدثنا إسحاق بن يوسف الأزرق، عن سفيان، عن عبد العزيز بن رفيع، قال: قلت لأنس بن مالك حدثني بشيء عقلته عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، أين صلى الظهر يوم التروية؟ قال: «بمنى» . قال: قلت: فأين صلى العصر يوم النفر؟ قال: «بالأبطح» ، ثم قال: «افعل كما يفعل أمراؤك» : هذا حديث حسن صحيح، يستغرب من حديث إسحاق بن يوسف الأزرق، عن الثوري

No English translation in the data for this text.

Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 3, p. 286, no. 964. Not yet checked against the printed edition.

Status

هذا حديث حسن صحيحGood and sound (al-Tirmidhi) · al-Tirmidhi, Jami' al-Tirmidhi, vol. 3, p. 286, no. 964Not yet checked against the printed edition.

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Chain of narratorsBy year of death

الترمذيCompiler · Identified · d. 275–279 AH
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
محمد بن عيسى بن سورة بن موسى بن الضحاك ، وقيل : محمد بن عيسى بن يزيد بن سورة بن السكن
d. 275–279 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- The compiler of the work.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
أحمد بن منيعProposed match · d. 243–244 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
أحمد بن منيع بن عبد الرحمن
d. 243–244 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1647 carries the name form 'احمد بن منيع'.
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 85, entry 114 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الحافظal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 204, entry 92 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثنا · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
إسحاق بن يوسف الأزرقProposed match · d. 194–196 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
إسحاق بن يوسف بن مرداس
d. 194–196 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1619 carries the name form 'اسحاق بن يوسف الازرق'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 104, entry 396 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
سفيانProposed match · d. 159–162 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
سفيان بن سعيد بن مسروق
d. 159–162 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- 11 Itqan profiles carry the name form 'سفيان'. This one's recorded teachers and students include the narrator before and the narrator after in this chain. The identity rests on that link, so the link is not independent evidence of continuity.
Other candidates considered
- سفيان بن حبيب d. 182–186 AH
- سفيان no death date
- سفيان بن عيينة بن أبي عمران : ميمون d. 197–198 AH
- شقيق بن سلمة d. 82–99 AH
- شيبان بن عبد الرحمن d. 164 AH
- سفيان بن وكيع بن الجراح d. 247 AH
- سفيان بن أبي زهير : القرد no death date
- سليمان بن سفيان no death date
- شقيق بن أبي عبد الله d. 141–150 AH
- سفيان بن حسين بن الحسن no death date
What the critics say
- ثقة حافظ فقيه عابد إمام حجةReliable, with emphasis · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 244, entry 2445 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- الإمامal-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 449, entry 1996 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ما كتبت عن أفضل منهبن المبارك, al-Kashif, p. 449, entry 1996 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- لم ير سفيان مثل نفسهورقاء, al-Kashif, p. 449, entry 1996 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
عن · ʿan, “from”
عبد العزيز بن رفيعProposed match · d. 130 AH
Proposed match
The importer's suggestion, not yet confirmed by a scholar.
Proposed identity
عبد العزيز بن رفيع
d. 130 AH, per Itqan narrator index (internal disambiguation only)
Why this match
- Only Itqan profile 1871 carries the name form 'عبد العزيز بن رفيع'.
What the critics say
- ثقةReliable · Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, Taqrib al-Tahdhib, p. 357, entry 4095 · not yet checked against the printed edition
- ثقة معمرReliable · al-Dhahabī, al-Kashif, p. 655, entry 3386 · not yet checked against the printed edition
These are said of the proposed identity, which a scholar has not yet confirmed.
حدثني · ḥaddathanā, “he narrated to us”
بشيء عقلتهNot identified
Not identified
The name as written, and nothing more.
no term
رسول اللهThe Prophet MuhammadThe Prophet ﷺ · Identified
Identified
Named by the text itself.
Who
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم · The Prophet Muhammad
No death date recorded

Names are as the text writes them; Latin-script names are not in the data yet (OPEN-33). Open a name to see who it may be and what the critics say.

System check · computed, not a ruling

Ruleset: Default rules for rating a chain v1 (draft)

بشيء عقلته: not identified, so the links around this name are not checked.
الترمذي from أحمد بن منيع: no biographical source loaded lists this teacher and student.

Combined rating: The ruleset and vocabularies are drafts awaiting the client's scholars. (OPEN-15)

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